Nice podcast on wetware

I just came across this podcast interview with Dennis Bray and thought I'd pass it on. I first met Dennis in Wyoming – I remember us sitting on silly horse saddle barstools in a cowboy bar, looking terribly British – at a conference called After the Genome. Dennis's field is cell biology, and in particular he creates computational models of E.coli. If you want to get a feel for systems biology and a new way of looking at the network of ten trillion tiny but astoundingly complex computers that constitutes your own body, I thoroughly recommend his very readable book, Wetware, and not just because Creatures is in it!